Sunday, July 19, 2009

[Inside KSC] Digest Number 3061

Messages In This Digest (10 Messages)

1a.
The Discovery Enterprise: Goodbye Walter Cronkite From: Alex Michael Bonnici
1b.
Re: The Discovery Enterprise: Goodbye Walter Cronkite From: jannneee2121
2.
Elton John Apollo 11 Tribute Video From: Shane B
3.1.
STS-127 Launch Video From: Roger Smith
3.2.
Re: STS-127 Launch Video From: Motie
4a.
Re: Walter's Perch at KSC From: Bruce Thompson
4b.
Re: Walter's Perch at KSC From: Dee Hover
5a.
Re: Fwd: [MilRadioComms] NASA 535 at Patrick AFB From: allanstern@aol.com
6a.
VCR Alert 1 old & 1 new From: TOM MCKEEVER
6b.
Re: VCR Alert 1 old & 1 new From: Rick Fischer

Messages

1a.

The Discovery Enterprise: Goodbye Walter Cronkite

Posted by: "Alex Michael Bonnici" ambonnici@onvol.net   albonnici_1998

Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:03 am (PDT)



Goodbye Walter Cronkite

Goodbye Walter Cronkite - just three days before the fortieth anniversary, he has left us. And that's the way it is today, Friday July 17th, 2009. Good bye Mr. Cronkite, the world will never be quite the same without you.

Goodbye Walter Cronkite

http://discoveryenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/07/goodbye-walter-cronkite.html

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1b.

Re: The Discovery Enterprise: Goodbye Walter Cronkite

Posted by: "jannneee2121" jannneee2121@yahoo.com   jannneee2121

Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:01 pm (PDT)



Dear Inside KSC: Walter Cronkite: "The" Voice of the 20th century journalist. His life and times will forever be remembered as they are now written in history, Much more than Walter Cronkite's historical importance was his contribution of presenting the news with honesty and integrity. The many people who lived during those turbulent years, Walter Cronkite's humble presence on the old black and white t.v.'s and then the new colour t.v.'s will be forever remembered with much fondness as Walter projected a warm image of a real human being with the capacity to report the news objectively and with reverence to the humanity. Walter Cronkite was like a dad who told it "like it is" and "as I see it" with forthrightness and kindness. Walter Cronkite's smooth fatherly voice felt comforting, knowing it was coming from a person wholly concerned and trustworthy with the state of humanity, Walter Cronkite's sincere way of reporting the news with much caring humanity did calm nerves of the boomer kids often overwhelmed with violent news. After we lived through the Vietnam War, the Cold War, JFK, RFK, and MLK's assassinations, as well as the joyous times, such as the Apollo 11 moon landing July 20, 1969. It would be fitting to name a reporting room at NASA "The Walter Cronkite Room" as a continuing tribute to this wonderful world respected journalist of highest standing and merit. Thank-you Walter Cronkite for being a wonderful human being and having been there with me during so many poignant times in history, you will be sadly missed and never replaced or forgotten. jajo--- In inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Michael Bonnici" <ambonnici@...> wrote:
>
> Goodbye Walter Cronkite
>
> Goodbye Walter Cronkite - just three days before the fortieth anniversary, he has left us. And that's the way it is today, Friday July 17th, 2009. Good bye Mr. Cronkite, the world will never be quite the same without you.
>
>
> Goodbye Walter Cronkite
>
>
>
> http://discoveryenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/07/goodbye-walter-cronkite.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

2.

Elton John Apollo 11 Tribute Video

Posted by: "Shane B" shaneb@ij.net   shane1bb

Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:49 am (PDT)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzrKlEtxTx4

Pretty neat...

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3.1.

STS-127 Launch Video

Posted by: "Roger Smith" roger@jadebox.com   jadebox

Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:45 am (PDT)



Here's a video I made of the recent STS-127 launch. It includes stills and
some video from NASA, but most of it is high-speed (slow-motion) video I
took using my EX-F1 camera. I think the result is pretty cool:

http://www.highspeedvideo.tv/archives/8-Space-Shuttle-Endeavour-Launch-STS-127.html

We were viewing the launch from the "Turn Basin" viewing area. It's just to
the east of the Vehicle Assembly Building - actually a little closer to the
launch pad than the press area with the famous countdown clock. Other than
the astronauts, only the Close-Out Crew, security, and fire resucue people
were closer to the pad than us.

I didn't want to miss seeing the launch with my own eyes, so I mounted the
camera on a tripod and just pointed it in the right direction. I framed the
image with the Close-Out crew in the foreground which I think worked well.

-- Roger

3.2.

Re: STS-127 Launch Video

Posted by: "Motie" themote@yahoo.com   themote

Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:01 pm (PDT)



Most excellent!!

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Roger Smith <roger@jadebox.com> wrote:

From: Roger Smith <roger@jadebox.com>
Subject: [Inside KSC] STS-127 Launch Video
To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 8:47 AM

 

Here's a video I made of the recent STS-127 launch. It includes stills and
some video from NASA, but most of it is high-speed (slow-motion) video I
took using my EX-F1 camera. I think the result is pretty cool:

http://www.highspee dvideo.tv/ archives/ 8-Space-Shuttle- Endeavour- Launch-STS- 127.html

We were viewing the launch from the "Turn Basin" viewing area. It's just to
the east of the Vehicle Assembly Building - actually a little closer to the
launch pad than the press area with the famous countdown clock. Other than
the astronauts, only the Close-Out Crew, security, and fire resucue people
were closer to the pad than us.

I didn't want to miss seeing the launch with my own eyes, so I mounted the
camera on a tripod and just pointed it in the right direction. I framed the
image with the Close-Out crew in the foreground which I think worked well.

-- Roger

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

4a.

Re: Walter's Perch at KSC

Posted by: "Bruce Thompson" cathybt@xtra.co.nz   marsfka

Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:17 pm (PDT)



Thanks for the views of where he worked.

Several years ago, I saw a space programme documentary, in which Cronkite was interviewed. He recalled watching the first Saturn 5 launch from his KSC studio, through the big picture window, and how the tremendous noise caught them completely by surprise.

He said the ceiling tiles in the studio collapsed and the window vibrated so hard they thought it was going to break, so he and a couple of his crew put their hands against the glass to damp the vibrations.

After the launch, a NASA technician came in a told them not to touch the window, as it was made to vibrate and stopping it doing that could make it break...

A space encyclopedia I once had said the the LC39 sound suppression system was not used for the first Saturn 5 launch and that a geophysical observatory in New Jersey, 17,00 kilometres away, picked up air waves from the Saturn.

"In The Shadow of The Moon" screened on our TV last night. I have it on DVD, so I didn't watch the programme, mostly because you are just getting into the swing of it - and this applies to anything interesting on TV - when you are interrupted by commercials for bodily functions and all the wonderful things you can do with them.

The opening clip is a slow-motion Saturn 5 liftoff. I cannot watch one of those without thinking about the incredible achievements and the squandered opportunities that characterised the manned space programme in those years, even though dwelling on might-have-beens is an exercise in futility. For all that, I was a witness to those times and and I will always be grateful for that.

BT

--- In inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <mailhdot@...> wrote:
>
> A week ago yesterday, I did a photo essay of Walter Cronkite's CBS News KSC facility at the KSC media site. Walter watched the Apollo launches through a big picture window.
>
> I uploaded some of those images to the InsideKSC Photos directory, take a look. (I am not a pro photographer- obviously.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inside_ksc/photos/album/1213832229/pic/list
>
> Thanks, Jim
>

4b.

Re: Walter's Perch at KSC

Posted by: "Dee Hover" DHover3@stny.rr.com   schelleyjo

Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:51 pm (PDT)



Jim

Thank you for sharing the photos.great pics.great memories. CBS did us proud
during the entrance of NASA's space exploration to our local neighbor. And,
Walter Cronkite shared all our emotions of those events during his time.

Let us pray that a video broadcast media will again join us in our return to
man journeying to our neighbors.

Dee

-----Original Message-----
From: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bruce Thompson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:52 PM
To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Inside KSC] Re: Walter's Perch at KSC

Thanks for the views of where he worked.

Several years ago, I saw a space programme documentary, in which Cronkite
was interviewed. He recalled watching the first Saturn 5 launch from his KSC
studio, through the big picture window, and how the tremendous noise caught
them completely by surprise.

He said the ceiling tiles in the studio collapsed and the window vibrated so
hard they thought it was going to break, so he and a couple of his crew put
their hands against the glass to damp the vibrations.

After the launch, a NASA technician came in a told them not to touch the
window, as it was made to vibrate and stopping it doing that could make it
break...

A space encyclopedia I once had said the the LC39 sound suppression system
was not used for the first Saturn 5 launch and that a geophysical
observatory in New Jersey, 17,00 kilometres away, picked up air waves from
the Saturn.

"In The Shadow of The Moon" screened on our TV last night. I have it on DVD,
so I didn't watch the programme, mostly because you are just getting into
the swing of it - and this applies to anything interesting on TV - when you
are interrupted by commercials for bodily functions and all the wonderful
things you can do with them.

The opening clip is a slow-motion Saturn 5 liftoff. I cannot watch one of
those without thinking about the incredible achievements and the squandered
opportunities that characterised the manned space programme in those years,
even though dwelling on might-have-beens is an exercise in futility. For all
that, I was a witness to those times and and I will always be grateful for
that.

BT

--- In inside_ksc@yahoogro <mailto:inside_ksc%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"Jim" <mailhdot@...> wrote:
>
> A week ago yesterday, I did a photo essay of Walter Cronkite's CBS News
KSC facility at the KSC media site. Walter watched the Apollo launches
through a big picture window.
>
> I uploaded some of those images to the InsideKSC Photos directory, take a
look. (I am not a pro photographer- obviously.
>
> http://groups.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inside_ksc/photos/album/1213832229/pic/list>
yahoo.com/group/inside_ksc/photos/album/1213832229/pic/list
>
> Thanks, Jim
>

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5a.

Re: Fwd: [MilRadioComms] NASA 535 at Patrick AFB

Posted by: "allanstern@aol.com" allanstern@aol.com   allanstern2000

Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:49 pm (PDT)




"jim s" jws@jwsss.com jwstephens_2000
>
> I researched what NASA 535 is used for and it is a "modified UH-1H" Tall
> Gear heliocopter that is used to drop test models.

Many thanks for that information, Jim.

AL STERN Satellite Beach FL
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6a.

VCR Alert 1 old & 1 new

Posted by: "TOM MCKEEVER" spaceradiotv@msn.com   tommarie87

Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:53 pm (PDT)




HISORY CHANNEL for Moonday July 20, 2009. The History is adding 1 program to their schedule:

Live from '69: Moon Landing:

This special takes viewers back to July 1969 to experience the actual CBS News/Walter Cronkite coverage of man's first lunar landing. Using minimal editing and leaving the original footage untouched viewers will feel as if they are watching the CBS coverage in July of 1969. While today we know the outcome of Apollo 11's mission it was not a given then. This will become evident watching Walter Cronkite and his colleagues as they watch the historic lunar mission unfold before them.

Airing at:

Monday, July 20 08:30 PM ET

Monday, July 20 11:00 PM ET

Tuesday, July 21 12:30 AM ET

Tuesday, July 21 03:00 AM ET

Also, don't forget the docudrama:

Moonshot:

Relive the breathtaking story of Apollo 11, the first manned landing on the Moon. Interlaced with original NASA footage transferred to high definition, this two-hour special puts viewers aboard the rocket and takes them on the eight-day round-trip to outer space. Life behind the scenes and edge-of-your-seat moments in space are dramatized in this film that stretches from the crew's earliest days at NASA to the moment when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin stepped on the Moon. From home life and families, to the argument over who would be the first to walk on the lunar surface, this is the remarkable story of one of the most chronicled events in history.

Airing at:

Monday, July 20 09:00 PM ET

Tuesday, July 21 01:00 AM ET

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6b.

Re: VCR Alert 1 old & 1 new

Posted by: "Rick Fischer" ffischer@cfl.rr.com   rfischer4073

Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:03 pm (PDT)



THANK YOU!!

Rick

On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:53 PM, TOM MCKEEVER <spaceradiotv@msn.com> wrote:

>
> HISORY CHANNEL for Moonday July 20, 2009. The History is adding 1
> program to their schedule:
>
> Live from '69: Moon Landing:
>
> This special takes viewers back to July 1969 to experience the
> actual CBS News/Walter Cronkite coverage of man's first lunar
> landing. Using minimal editing and leaving the original footage
> untouched viewers will feel as if they are watching the CBS coverage
> in July of 1969. While today we know the outcome of Apollo 11's
> mission it was not a given then. This will become evident watching
> Walter Cronkite and his colleagues as they watch the historic lunar
> mission unfold before them.
>
> Airing at:
>
> Monday, July 20 08:30 PM ET
>
> Monday, July 20 11:00 PM ET
>
> Tuesday, July 21 12:30 AM ET
>
> Tuesday, July 21 03:00 AM ET
>
> Also, don't forget the docudrama:
>
> Moonshot:
>
> Relive the breathtaking story of Apollo 11, the first manned landing
> on the Moon. Interlaced with original NASA footage transferred to
> high definition, this two-hour special puts viewers aboard the
> rocket and takes them on the eight-day round-trip to outer space.
> Life behind the scenes and edge-of-your-seat moments in space are
> dramatized in this film that stretches from the crew's earliest days
> at NASA to the moment when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin stepped on
> the Moon. From home life and families, to the argument over who
> would be the first to walk on the lunar surface, this is the
> remarkable story of one of the most chronicled events in history.
>
> Airing at:
>
> Monday, July 20 09:00 PM ET
>
> Tuesday, July 21 01:00 AM ET
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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HSFNEWS Digest - 18 Jul 2009 to 19 Jul 2009 (#2009-73)

There are 2 messages totalling 66 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. STS-127 MCC Status Report #06
2. STS-127 MCC Status Report #07

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:21:20 -0500
From: info@JSC.NASA.GOV
Subject: STS-127 MCC Status Report #06

STS-127
Report #06
Friday, July 18, 2009 - 7:00 a.m. CDT
Mission Control Center, Houston, Texas

HOUSTON – The third and final piece of Japan's Kibo laboratory will be assembled on orbit Saturday, a symphony of robotic and spacewalking performances by the 13 member orchestra aboard the International Space Station complex.

The players awakened at 6:03 a.m. to the strains of "Home," by Marc Broussard, played for lead spacewalker Dave Wolf, who heard the call while camped out in the Quest airlock with Tim Kopra, the newest addition to the Expedition 20 crew.

Spacewalk preparations resume at 6:43 a.m., followed by the start of robotic operations by Mission Specialist Koichi Wakata and Endeavour Pilot Doug Hurley, who will use the station's Canadarm2 to grapple the Japanese Exposed Facility at 9:38 a.m. and lift it out of the payload bay at 12:43 p.m. They'll hand the facility to the shuttle's Canadarm at 1:43 p.m. and move the station's arm into position for installation at 2:53 p.m. The shuttle arm will hand off the new Kibo component to the station arm at 4:23 p.m., and then the station arm will be used to move the new "porch" into position for installation to the Kibo pressurized module at 4:38 p.m.

Wolf and Kopra are set to begin their six and a half-hour spacewalk at 10:58 a.m. They'll remove insulation from Kibo's berthing mechanism, disconnect power cables providing electricity to the shuttle's Integrated Cargo Carrier, apply a specially designed tool to release the station's Earth-facing Unpressurized Cargo Carriers Attachment System, secure covers on the Harmony and Unity modules' common berthing mechanisms, and set up a payload attach system on the station's backbone. Mission Specialists Chris Cassidy and Tom Marshburn will help coordinate the spacewalk from inside.

STS-127 Commander Mark Polansky will help out with the exposed facility arm-to-arm handoff and work with cargo, water and nitrogen transfers, and Mission Specialist Julie Payette will assist with robotic and camera operations.

Expedition 20 Commander Genady Padalka and Flight Engineers Mike Barratt, Bob Thirsk, Roman Romanenko and Frank De Winne will focus on station maintenance and exercise, helping out as needed with the spacewalk and robotics tasks.

Meanwhile, imagery experts and mission managers continue to review data and photos to assess the health of Endeavour's heat shield.

The next shuttle status report after the spacewalk or earlier if events warrant.


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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:50:31 -0500
From: info@JSC.NASA.GOV
Subject: STS-127 MCC Status Report #07

STS-127
Report #07
9 p.m. CDT Friday, July 18, 2009
Mission Control Center, Houston, Texas

HOUSTON – In a complex and choreographed activity, the crews of Endeavour and the International Space Station installed the Exposed Facility on the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency's Kibo laboratory today, the top priority for the mission, and completed the first of five spacewalks planned.

Early in the day, space shuttle managers notified the crew of Endeavour that a Focused Inspection of the orbiter's heat shield will not be required.

Though plagued by communication problems, crew members Dave Wolf and Tim Kopra completed all of their primary tasks during a 5 hour, 32 minute spacewalk. STS-127 lead spacewalker Dave Wolf and the newest space station crew member Tim Kopra began the spacewalk at 11:19 a.m., when they switched their spacesuits to battery power. The spacewalk ended at 4:51 p.m.

The Japanese Exposed Facility is the space station's new porch and will expose science experiments to the extreme environments of space. The JEF was installed by Shuttle Commander Mark Polansky and Mission Specialist Julie Payette, who operated the shuttle robotic arm, and by Pilot Doug Hurley and Mission Specialist Koichi Wakata, who operated the station robotic arm.

Spacewalkers Wolf and Kopra began by preparing the berthing mechanisms on the Kibo laboratory and the JEF for the installation. The two also completed deploying an unpressurized cargo carrier attachment system (UCCAS) on the Port 3 truss that had failed to unfurl during STS-119 in March. The UCCAS will be used in the future to store equipment and supplies on the outside of the station.

After a series of robotic arm "hand offs," the JEF was officially latched to the Kibo laboratory at 6:29 p.m. The process involved three robotic arm systems. The space station and shuttle arms moved JEF from Endeavour's payload bay to the Kibo laboratory and Kibo's robotic arm was used to view the installation.

The station crew is scheduled to go to bed at about 9 p.m. with the shuttle crew following about 30 minutes later. Wake up Sunday is scheduled for 5:33 a.m.

The next shuttle status report will be issued after crew wake, or earlier if events warrant.

-end-


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[Inside KSC] Digest Number 3060

Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)

1.1.
Location of various things at KSC From: Major Tom
2.1.
Re: History repeats itself From: Yul Tolbert
3a.
LRO Sees APOLLO Lunar Landing Sites ! ! ! From: Ez2cDave@aol.com
3b.
Re: LRO Sees APOLLO Lunar Landing Sites ! ! ! From: Brian Su
4a.
Cronkite dead From: Shane B
4b.
Re: Cronkite dead From: Alex Michael Bonnici
5a.
On Cronkite From: Jim
5b.
Re: On Cronkite From: Shane B
5c.
Re: On Cronkite From: Richard
5d.
Re: On Cronkite From: Simon Booth
5e.
Re: On Cronkite From: Shane B
6.
Walter's Perch at KSC From: Jim

Messages

1.1.

Location of various things at KSC

Posted by: "Major Tom" majtom7@hotmail.com   majtom7

Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:10 am (PDT)





> Write your Senator or Congress person and request a VIP viewing pass.
>
> Although you won't be at the press site, you'd be watching from the
> VIP site next to the Saturn V center. Its an extraordinary view.
>
> Rick

I would add to write both of your state's senators and your Congressman. If you want to be by the Saturn Center, request the Banana Creek viewing location. You may or may not get it. If not, you'll be out on the Causeway. Also, they are limiting these requests to groups of 5 people since the number of launches is decreasing and naturally, demand for viewing is picking up.

It's either that or start sucking up to KSC staff ;)

Michael <-- and yeah, that view kicks butt!!

P.S. If you do end up by the Saturn Center for a day launch, bring something to put on the metal bleachers to sit on.

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2.1.

Re: History repeats itself

Posted by: "Yul Tolbert" yul_tolbert@yahoo.com   yul_tolbert

Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:52 am (PDT)



Asteroid mining has the potential to solve many of the current economic problems. But because we live in a world of spectacular mediocrity, few people are willing to make that breakthrough possible. It's as if you're $1 million in debt and there's $1 billion in free money on the other side of a river. But because you say you need to take care of things on your side of the river, you don't get that money that is accessible and would be yours free and clear.
 
 
 
-- Yul
 

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Martyn Painter <martyn.painter@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Martyn Painter <martyn.painter@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [Inside KSC] History repeats itself
To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 4:50 PM

 

I would love to see millions and trillions given to NASA, as much money as
they need to keep the shuttle flying, keep the ISS up for 30 years or more
and go to the Moon and Mars as well. That would be my dream but the reality
in 2009 is different. The world is in a financial crisis, people all over
the earth are losing their jobs and their homes, companies are folding at a
frightening rate.

There is only a certain amount of public sector money to go around and a lot
of people making demands of that money, those are the realities of the
current environment.

Martyn

From: inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane B
Sent: 16 July 2009 21:36
To: inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [Inside KSC] History repeats itself

I wonder how many billions would better served by the Space Program
than special interests but who am *I* and how dare *I* challenge the
wisdom of my betters??

I swear if I hear just one more person in politics issue the
statement "We need to spend the money here on earth..." I swear I'm
gonna blow chunks!!!

Shane

>But right now the President or the Congress don't have a Trillion Dollar to
>give to NASA. We would all like NASA to have lots more money but there is
>only a certain amount available and lots of demand for that money.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:inside_ ksc%40yahoogroup s.com>
[mailto:inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:inside_ ksc%40yahoogroup s.com> ]
On
>Behalf Of Scott Brotherton
>Sent: 16 July 2009 02:52
>To: inside_ksc@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:inside_ ksc%40yahoogroup s.com>
>Subject: Re: [Inside KSC] History repeats itself
>
>
>
>
>
>Dear Martyn Painter, et. al.,
>
>The idea that there is not money to do both, just does not ring true to me.
>It is only the will to do it that stops us or makes us move forward. If the
>President and Congress, tomorrow passed a bill stating that NASA would get
a
>Trillion dollars between 2010 and 2020, and that it could not be changed,
>that would only mean 0.92 cents a day for every American. I spend $1.50 to
>$2.25 a day at the coke machine at work. By the way, that is one trillion
>divided by 10 years, divided by 300 million citizens, divided by 365 days.
I
>would also assume that since the nay sayers, way back when, said that it
>would cost upwards of 800 billion dollars to go back to the moon by 2020,
>then a trillion should be able to do that, keep the ISS running and still
be
>able to have much more.
>
>In my opinion, that is the type of figure NASA needs to be passing out. Not
>a billion for this but in a figure that an average individual can wrap
their
>mind around.
>
>Scott Brotherton
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Martyn Painter
>Subject: RE: [Inside KSC] History repeats itself
>
>There was always going to be certain life lifespan for the ISS . . . .
>
>. . . . . The US wants to concentrate on the Moon and Mars, there's not
>enough money for both.

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3a.

LRO Sees APOLLO Lunar Landing Sites ! ! !

Posted by: "Ez2cDave@aol.com" Ez2cDave@aol.com   ez2cdave

Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:56 pm (PDT)



To All,

The LRO has seen APOLLO Landing Sites . . .

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html

Dave Fitch

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3b.

Re: LRO Sees APOLLO Lunar Landing Sites ! ! !

Posted by: "Brian Su" cycloniterulez@yahoo.com   rdxrulez

Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:04 pm (PDT)



Very good! Thanks for sharing :)

-

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Ez2cDave@aol.com <Ez2cDave@aol.com> wrote:

From: Ez2cDave@aol.com <Ez2cDave@aol.com>
Subject: [Inside KSC] LRO Sees APOLLO Lunar Landing Sites ! ! !
To: scaleroc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Apollo-modelers@yahoogroups.com, ApolloEra@yahoogroups.com, space-modelers@yahoogroups.com, inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com, space-modelers_eva@yahoogroups.com, Space-Paper-Models@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 4:39 AM

 

To All,

The LRO has seen APOLLO Landing Sites . . .

http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/LRO/ multimedia/ lroimages/ apollosites. html

Dave Fitch

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4a.

Cronkite dead

Posted by: "Shane B" shaneb@ij.net   shane1bb

Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:36 pm (PDT)





>FORMER CBS NEWS ANCHOR WALTER CRONKITE DIES AT 92

Shane

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4b.

Re: Cronkite dead

Posted by: "Alex Michael Bonnici" ambonnici@onvol.net   albonnici_1998

Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:17 pm (PDT)



Oh what sad news!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Shane B
To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:34 AM
Subject: [Inside KSC] Cronkite dead

>FORMER CBS NEWS ANCHOR WALTER CRONKITE DIES AT 92

Shane

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5a.

On Cronkite

Posted by: "Jim" mailhdot@aol.com   hdot_tech

Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:17 pm (PDT)



Walter Cronkite could explain those 1960 space missions to the mass television audience better than any other broadcaster. Walter Cronkite forced the other networks to try and keep up. Cronkite devoted tremendous energy and effort to understanding space technology. He rode space simulators and picked the minds of the world's greatest space experts before bringing all down to our level of understanding.

Cronkite's curiosity and enthusiasm could be felt in his words and sen in his eyes as he reported from America's space centers during the most interesting era of NASA space exploration.

Nobody, to this day, has done a better job of covering the space beat than Walter Cronkite did.

- Jim McDade

5b.

Re: On Cronkite

Posted by: "Shane B" shaneb@ij.net   shane1bb

Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:30 pm (PDT)



I am old enough to remember him CRYING on TV. Carved indelibly in my head!

Shane

Emacs!

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/images/news/press_release/cronkcaps_large.jpg

>Walter Cronkite could explain those 1960 space missions to the mass
>television audience better than any other broadcaster. Walter
>Cronkite forced the other networks to try and keep up. Cronkite
>devoted tremendous energy and effort to understanding space
>technology. He rode space simulators and picked the minds of the
>world's greatest space experts before bringing all down to our level
>of understanding.
>
>Cronkite's curiosity and enthusiasm could be felt in his words and
>sen in his eyes as he reported from America's space centers during
>the most interesting era of NASA space exploration.
>
>Nobody, to this day, has done a better job of covering the space
>beat than Walter Cronkite did.
>
>- Jim McDade

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5c.

Re: On Cronkite

Posted by: "Richard" prozacdick@yahoo.com   prozacdick

Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:46 pm (PDT)



I feel like I have lost a dear friend!
 
Richard

 
 
 
 
 
http://prozacdick.blogspot.com/   

--- On Fri, 7/17/09, Shane B <shaneb@ij.net> wrote:

From: Shane B <shaneb@ij.net>
Subject: Re: [Inside KSC] On Cronkite
To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:28 PM

 

I am old enough to remember him CRYING on TV. Carved indelibly in my head!

Shane

Emacs!

http://www.cah. utexas.edu/ images/news/ press_release/ cronkcaps_ large.jpg

>Walter Cronkite could explain those 1960 space missions to the mass
>television audience better than any other broadcaster. Walter
>Cronkite forced the other networks to try and keep up. Cronkite
>devoted tremendous energy and effort to understanding space
>technology. He rode space simulators and picked the minds of the
>world's greatest space experts before bringing all down to our level
>of understanding.
>
>Cronkite's curiosity and enthusiasm could be felt in his words and
>sen in his eyes as he reported from America's space centers during
>the most interesting era of NASA space exploration.
>
>Nobody, to this day, has done a better job of covering the space
>beat than Walter Cronkite did.
>
>- Jim McDade

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5d.

Re: On Cronkite

Posted by: "Simon Booth" sbooth1@satx.rr.com   phoenyxx98

Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:00 pm (PDT)




On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Richard wrote:

>
> I feel like I have lost a dear friend!
>
I was a kid during the 70s and it was a nightly ritual to have dinner
while the CBS Evening News was on. When Cronkite retired in 1981 it
seemed a little strange not hearing that famous catchphrase at the
end of the newscast.

Simon
>
>

http://www.simonboothstudios.com/

5e.

Re: On Cronkite

Posted by: "Shane B" shaneb@ij.net   shane1bb

Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:00 pm (PDT)



Metoo! Loved his legacy - hated his politics. :) May he rest well
and peacefully...

Shane

>I feel like I have lost a dear friend!
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>http://prozacdick.blogspot.com/
>
>--- On Fri, 7/17/09, Shane B <shaneb@ij.net> wrote:
>
>
>From: Shane B <shaneb@ij.net>
>Subject: Re: [Inside KSC] On Cronkite
>To: inside_ksc@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:28 PM
>
>
>
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>I am old enough to remember him CRYING on TV. Carved indelibly in my head!
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>Shane
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>Emacs!
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>http://www.cah. utexas.edu/ images/news/ press_release/ cronkcaps_ large.jpg
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> >Walter Cronkite could explain those 1960 space missions to the mass
> >television audience better than any other broadcaster. Walter
> >Cronkite forced the other networks to try and keep up. Cronkite
> >devoted tremendous energy and effort to understanding space
> >technology. He rode space simulators and picked the minds of the
> >world's greatest space experts before bringing all down to our level
> >of understanding.
> >
> >Cronkite's curiosity and enthusiasm could be felt in his words and
> >sen in his eyes as he reported from America's space centers during
> >the most interesting era of NASA space exploration.
> >
> >Nobody, to this day, has done a better job of covering the space
> >beat than Walter Cronkite did.
> >
> >- Jim McDade

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6.

Walter's Perch at KSC

Posted by: "Jim" mailhdot@aol.com   hdot_tech

Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:19 pm (PDT)



A week ago yesterday, I did a photo essay of Walter Cronkite's CBS News KSC facility at the KSC media site. Walter watched the Apollo launches through a big picture window.

I uploaded some of those images to the InsideKSC Photos directory, take a look. (I am not a pro photographer- obviously.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inside_ksc/photos/album/1213832229/pic/list

Thanks, Jim

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